What We're Doing & Why We're Doing It


Catholics often get a bad rap for their teachings. It's easy to look at parts of the whole doctrine of the Church and assume the worst. Like the Venerable Fulton J. Sheen would say, "There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” As Catholics, we've been moved to play a small part in changing these perceptions by meeting you wherever you happen to be in this culture. In this podcast, we'll answer any questions you might have about the Catholic faith, and we'll try our best to do it humbly and honestly, in laymen's terms.

At the same time, we recognize that in today’s society it is increasingly difficult to engage in honest and productive dialogue with people who hold different beliefs. It would seem that our culture today is all too eager to avoid having difficult conversations, settling for either cheap relativistic assurances or crass condemnations devoid of human decency. Such an inability to meet and dialogue with love, patience, humility, and conviction is, in our opinion, a serious threat to society. Humbly recognizing our own weaknesses with conducting such a dialogue, we nevertheless intentionally seek to interact with those different than us, in patience and love, so that we might better understand each other. Through this podcast, we hope not only that we might grow in our ability to meet others in love, but that our listeners might as well.


Our episodes typically come in pairs, airing one at a time on Sundays.

  1. In the first episode of the pairing, Brian or Eric sits down with a friend and asks them one question: How do you identify spiritually? From this one question emerges a fascinating discussion about truth, reality, and love. At the end of these interviews, the interviewee is given the opportunity to ask us, the hosts, any question they want regarding Catholicism/Christianity/religion/faith/morals/life in general. These interviews are always done with friends from a wide variety of backgrounds and beliefs.

  2. In the second episode of the pairing, Brian and Eric head back to studio to discuss how the interview went, address the issues that arose in the interview, and finally answer the final question raised by the interviewee.

We have found ourselves consistently challenged in the best way by these interviews, and have grown in unimaginable ways as a result. We hope you, the listener, find this experience as gratifying and valuable as we have.


Eric Klein is a high school English teacher who is, among other things, a track and cross country coach, a lifelong runner, a die-hard Minnesota Twins fan, a shameless coffee addict, and a Catholic. He would, at any given time, rather be reading a book.

Brian Kusek is the Coordinator of Faith Formation and Youth Ministry at the Church of St. Francis of Assisi, a title which consumes well over half of any bio. He is similarly a connoisseur of the finer things in life, such as coffee, good books, and the one, true faith, though he prefers motion to be meaningful, and so will only run if provoked.  


"You cannot stop the passing currents. They are many.

They mill around, form a field where

you yourself pass, reconciled

because after all something does surge;

the world grows round you..."


"...One of us, one of many

crossed all passing currents,

changed the direction of the field where everyone passes,

solitary grandeur in all creation


This Passage is called Pascha--



Our opening song for the podcast is a product of the verses project - putting scripture into song. Check them out and support their work!

Our closing song is recorded by the Immaculate Heart Folk Band, to whom we are deeply indebted, both for their song and their support.

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In May of 1973, Polish Cardinal Karol Wojtyła pseudonymously published a poem-cycle called "Meditation on Death." The two selections on the left are taken from Sections 1 and 4 of this beautiful poem. The "passing currents" that Cardinal Wojtyła describes are the very currents we wish to dive into in this podcast. Furthermore, we do so with complete confidence in our pursuits entirely due to the "one of us" Who has crossed the currents and changed the course for us all. With this in mind, and in honor of the great Karol Wojtyła (known later in life as Pope John Paul II) we have chosen to name this show the Passing Currents Podcast.

The poem in its entirety is recorded below.